#88962: "Undo?"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if any.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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Google Chrome v113
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I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
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Google Chrome v113
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v113
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v113
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• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
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Google Chrome v113
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• Which was the game action you wanted to do?
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• What do you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
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Google Chrome v113
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• At which step of the game did the problem occurs (what was the current game instruction)?
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v113
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v113
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v113
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I imagine this would be wickedly complex, but the game would be greatly improved by the ability to undo an action you just took. (I just conceded a game because I made a small error that threw my entire game.)
• What is your browser?
Google Chrome v113
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A: Add a "Return to start of Local phase" button, available only when new cards haven't been revealed.
+ Fairly straightforward
- Other players can undo your actions
- Any sort of R+D disables this
B: Add a "Undo actions since other players' most recent action or since you last drew cards" button
+ Fairly reliable in a turn-based game
- Fairly useless in a real-time game
- Even just the description of that button can tell you that it's going to be frustrating to use
C: Add a smart "Undo all of my actions" button that doesn't undo anything affecting other players
+ This would be pretty nice
- This would be really hard
D: Add an "Undo most recent action" button, with no option to undo further than that
+ Relatively simple, probably meets most players' needs
+ Probably unnecessary to consider what other players have done since; we can disable the button if the most recent action gave a card to another player or revealed new cards
- Players will definitely ask for more
- Rolling back just part of the game state is still very difficult even for atomic actions
Undo is a feature we wanted from the beginning, but the game's format makes it less feasible to implement for the reasons Mogri described. If you'd like to discuss some options, let's email directly and brainstorm together.
Option D is what I'd hoped for and would be really valuable in terms of player experience.
By the nature of the game, many actions will prevent you from undoing your action. These include tucking a card under a global or crisis card (because other players' action may gain bonuses after that point), changes that affect the board such as adding cubes to the thermometer, transferring cards or communities in crisis to/from other players, and many more actions. Basically, actions that have an effect on other players' actions cannot be undone.
As you play around with the new undo system, hopefully you can help us decide whether it's an improvement or whether it creates confusion. While we're certain that a more expansive version of undo will always be requested, we've already made efforts to allow it in every feasible situation (it even undiscards cards that you have spent if they're still in the discard pile). Consequently, we've reached the limit of the undo option and we're now evaluating whether the new system will be beneficial for players in its current state.
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