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#75126: "Watch tower tile not awarded to player when it should"
notabug: This is not a bug
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Rules: a rule of the game has not been respected
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• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
On move 238 red player put a wall piece next to the golden palace and yet was not awarded the watch tower 4 tile, even though it was the last to get a wall tile next to an own palace connected to that watch tower.
This bug caused me to lose the game since by winning the tower tile I would have gone over my opponent in points. Therefore I request that the final result of this game reflects the rules with me winning the match and receiving the correct amount of points to my game score.• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
Yes, on move 238.• What is your browser?
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3. Nov 2022 21:45 • Tilt • Bug has not been reproduced by delopers yet:
This goes against the official rule which states:
"If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component and any player rebuilds this wall at a later point in time so that it borders this palace, the owner of the palace also receives the cor- responding tower tile."
Since I rebuilt the wall so that it bordered that palace again, I should have received the corresponding tower tile 4.
This bug caused me to lose the game since by winning the tower tile I would have gone over my opponent in points. Therefore I request that the final result of this game reflects the rules with me winning the match and receiving the correct amount of points to my game score.
"If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component and any player rebuilds this wall at a later point in time so that it borders this palace, the owner of the palace also receives the cor- responding tower tile."
Since I rebuilt the wall so that it bordered that palace again, I should have received the corresponding tower tile 4.
This bug caused me to lose the game since by winning the tower tile I would have gone over my opponent in points. Therefore I request that the final result of this game reflects the rules with me winning the match and receiving the correct amount of points to my game score.
6. Nov 2022 21:06 • Lymon Flowers • This is not a bug:
Mr Dorra confirmed that the rules are OK :
"Everything is okay with tower tile 4. Blue put a wall on 0,8 and Red got the tower tile 4. Later Blue put a wall on 2,12 and now Blue got the tower tile 4.
Red didn't get the tower tile 4 if he put a wall on 0.7. because this palace was already connected. A palace gets a tower tile only at the first touch. "
Thanks for your interest in Medina.
Benjamin
"Everything is okay with tower tile 4. Blue put a wall on 0,8 and Red got the tower tile 4. Later Blue put a wall on 2,12 and now Blue got the tower tile 4.
Red didn't get the tower tile 4 if he put a wall on 0.7. because this palace was already connected. A palace gets a tower tile only at the first touch. "
Thanks for your interest in Medina.
Benjamin
6. Nov 2022 21:42 • Tilt • This is not a bug:
This contradicts the rules which states:
"If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component and any player rebuilds this wall at a later point in time so that it borders this palace, the owner of the palace also receives the corresponding tower tile."
Let's break this down:
1) "If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component ... "
If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component that player should receive the tower tile as per the rules. That player may later lose that tower tile, as it happened w/ red in this game.
2) "... and any player rebuilds this wall *** at a later point in time so that it borders this palace ***..."
This too happened in this game, when after having lost the tower tile the red player rebuilt the wall again touching his palace for a second time.
3) "the owner of the palace also receives the corresponding tower tile."
Therefore the red player, after having rebuilt the wall "so that it borders this palace " (exactly as it is written in the rule) should "also receives the corresponding tower tile".
The implementation, as it stands, is not following part 2 above because it's not awarding the owner of the palace the corresponding tower tile when the wall is rebuilt AT A LATER POINT IN TIME SO THAT IT BORDERS THIS PALACE again.
If your interpretation were correct in that a palace that was already connected can't receive the tower tile again at a later point in time, the rules wouldn't clearly state "any player rebuilds this wall >>> at a later point in time <<< so that it borders this palace the owner of the palace also receives the corresponding tower tile".
I don't know how to better explain the obvious. Do you not see that your interpretation goes against the rules? This game is already not getting much action on BGA, implementing the game wrong (against the official rules) and refusing to fix the implementation may not be a good strategy to change that.
"If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component and any player rebuilds this wall at a later point in time so that it borders this palace, the owner of the palace also receives the corresponding tower tile."
Let's break this down:
1) "If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component ... "
If a player has a palace bordering a city wall space with a wall component that player should receive the tower tile as per the rules. That player may later lose that tower tile, as it happened w/ red in this game.
2) "... and any player rebuilds this wall *** at a later point in time so that it borders this palace ***..."
This too happened in this game, when after having lost the tower tile the red player rebuilt the wall again touching his palace for a second time.
3) "the owner of the palace also receives the corresponding tower tile."
Therefore the red player, after having rebuilt the wall "so that it borders this palace " (exactly as it is written in the rule) should "also receives the corresponding tower tile".
The implementation, as it stands, is not following part 2 above because it's not awarding the owner of the palace the corresponding tower tile when the wall is rebuilt AT A LATER POINT IN TIME SO THAT IT BORDERS THIS PALACE again.
If your interpretation were correct in that a palace that was already connected can't receive the tower tile again at a later point in time, the rules wouldn't clearly state "any player rebuilds this wall >>> at a later point in time <<< so that it borders this palace the owner of the palace also receives the corresponding tower tile".
I don't know how to better explain the obvious. Do you not see that your interpretation goes against the rules? This game is already not getting much action on BGA, implementing the game wrong (against the official rules) and refusing to fix the implementation may not be a good strategy to change that.
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