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#14681: "Direction of passing cards not indicated"

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20. Mar 2020 10:43 • Marietsie • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

To play strategically you need to know who will be getting the cards that are in your hands. It is difficult to determine with the interface as it currently is.

20. Mar 2020 14:20 • nandblock • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

Agreed. Also, in the 2nd round passing should be counter-clockwise, but it seems to be clockwise in all 3 rounds currently.

20. Mar 2020 16:05 • Serinde_ • This suggestion has not been analyzed by delopers yet:

The direction is in the right column between the messages who plays which card. Every round clockwise indeed.

21. Mar 2020 9:22 • Een • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

Passing follows the player order, so you pass to the next player after you in the player order, and you receive from the player before you in player order.

If you are wondering about the player order, he player panels on the top right and the card played zones are displayed in player order (like for other games on BGA).

The direction is also indicated in the log. We thought it was clear but it has been reported (a few times, not many) so we may add something in the interface to make it easier.

You should also note that if the player variant "both ways" has been selected, the pass order is reversed on the second round. By default, all rounds have the same order (as per the rules).

22. May 2020 19:05 • Marcuda • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

This issue confused all five players in a recent game. We assumed, and eventually confirmed, it was player order, but the term "clockwise" is confusing when the player boards are arranged vertically. Given the interface design perhaps changing to or adding something like "top to bottom" or "down" would be useful?

23. May 2020 20:10 • elfstone • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

I had to play with a few friends in discord, and asked them who got which card in order to figure out how passing works. There should be some kind of indicator...

27. May 2020 3:39 • MoonGoyal • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

If anyone is curious:
The passing cards are always Clockwise (top to bottom), unless the both ways variant is selected, in which case the second round is Counterclockwise (bottom to top).
This is easy to see, because the side that the cards slide in from.

4. Sep 2020 7:58 • MasterMar • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

Such a good idea!

2. Dec 2020 21:24 • wrldtrvllr • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

The use of the term "clockwise" when there is no circular arrangement of anything to which it could refer could not be more confusing. Simply replacing this with "top to bottom" would make everything clear.

11. May 2021 17:14 • King of Games • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

"Clockwise" is nonsense, when there is no circular arrangement. And the cards *must* alternate order in the second round to go the other way.

Keep in mind that for a bug report to get 85 votes (as of today) is a huge hurdle on this website. This is in the top 50 bugs on the entire site.

11. May 2021 17:19 • King of Games • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

Correction: The rules do indicate the pass is always to the left. Still, it's not obvious who you are passing to.

14. Mar 2023 22:36 • blockmonoid • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

I just wrote a discussion on the BGA rules wiki for this game because it's completely unclear what "left" and "right" or "clockwise" mean when the players are arranged vertically.

en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Talk:Gamehelpsushigo#Direction_for_Passing

But now seeing this discussion with response from admins, I'm going to change the rules wiki to make it clearer about the direction.

This bug has 100+ votes. That's not a small amount, as King of Games noted above.

24. Mar 2023 0:25 • wrldtrvllr • Developers agree that it is a good idea and intend to work on it:

Happy third birthday to this bug. The word "clockwise" is completely meaningless in this game interface. Changing it to "top to bottom" would be the work of a few seconds. It is pretty unbelievable that three years have passed and this trivial fix has still not been done.

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